Douglas Murray Warns: 'Israel’s War Is Won—but America’s Is Just Beginning'

David McCormick interviews Douglas Murray at R.J.C. 10/31

[00:00–04:30] Opening Banter & The “Two Wars” Framework

Senator David McCormick introduces Douglas Murray as a leading voice on antisemitism, Israel, and the struggle against “death cults” in the democratic world. Murray jokes about Lindsey Graham leaving early and notes that, after spending so much time in Israel, he “feels a bit Jewish,” a nod to the cultural energy in the room.

Murray outlines his central framing: the existence of two simultaneous wars. The first is the kinetic war Hamas began on October 7. The second—and, in his view, the more neglected one—is the ideological war unfolding in America and the broader West.

He praises the IDF and IAF for “generational achievements” since the last RJC gathering: crushing Hamas in Gaza, degrading Hezbollah, and operating freely in a hostile region with American support.

[04:30–10:00] The Second War: Anti-Israelism as Anti-Westernism

Murray shifts focus to “the war at home.” Across the West—from the U.S. and U.K. to France, Canada, and Australia—he sees large anti-Israel protests that echo each other regardless of geography. He cites Melbourne, where thousands chant against Israel: “You’re in Melbourne—what’s it got to do with you?”

This isn’t simply pro-Palestinian sentiment, he argues, but the mainstreaming of support for Hamas. He notes that at Princeton, protesters chanted “Glory to our martyrs,” explicitly adopting Hamas’ cause as their own.

McCormick recalls students in Pennsylvania assaulting a young man carrying an Israel flag and his campaign shirt. As a non-Jew, he asks: What is the root cause of this sudden explosion?

[10:00–15:30] The Woke Guilt Machine & Projecting Sin onto Israel

Murray cites Soviet writer Vasily Grossman: “Tell me what you accuse the Jews of, and I’ll tell you what you’re guilty of.” The Nazis accused Jews of racism and world domination; Iran accuses Israel of colonizing while it extends influence